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Jesus: The Great Debate [Paperback]

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Pages   288
Est. Packaging Dimensions:   Length: 0.75" Width: 5.5" Height: 8.75"
Weight:   0.78 lbs.
Binding  Softcover
Release Date   Aug 3, 1999
Publisher   WaterBrook Press
ISBN  0921714564  
EAN  9780921714569  

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" Who do you say that I am?" is a question that has stirred great debate concerning the identity of Jesus in universities, churches, and most of all, in the hearts of millions.

"Jesus The Great Debate" explores the criticism of the skeptics, such as the Jesus Seminar, a group of liberal scholars who deny that Jesus performed miracles and rose from the dead.

Fascinating new scientific evidence suggests the Shroud of Turin may prove to be the actual burial cloth of Christ.
Find out why many of the ancient Jews rejected Jesus despite their prophecies that revealed He was the true Messiah.
Read the censored passages about Jesus and His disciples hidden in the Jewish Talmud and Targums.
Explore the astonishing discoveries of early Christian tombs.
Uncover the truth about Jesus regarding His mysterious birth, His miracles, and His remarkable resurrection.

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"JESUS- The Great Debate
"The Question is... Who do "you "say that I am?
An insightful new release addressing the identity of Jesus from a knowledgeable, well researched perspective.
""Who do you say that I am?"" It's a question that has stirred great debate concerning the identity of Jesus in universities, churches, and most of all, in the hearts of millions. "JESUS The Great Debate" explored the criticism of the skeptics, such as the Jesus Seminar, a group of liberal scholars who deny that Jesus performed miracles and rose from the dead. Fascinating new scientific evidence suggests the Shroud of Turin may prove to be the actual burial cloth of Christ. Find out why many of the ancient Jews rejected Jesus despite their prophecies that revealed He was the true Messiah. Read the censored passages about Jesus of Nazareth hidden in the Jewish Talmud and Targums. Explore the astonishing discoveries of early Christian tombs. Uncover the truth about Jesus regarding His mysterious birth, His miracles, and His remarkable resurrection.
""This comprehensive study of evidence about Jesus provides compelling proof to both skeptics and believers that He is the true Messiah."

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Grant R. Jeffrey Dr. Grant Jeffrey is the best selling author of 21 books selling over 7 million copies. Grant is internationally respected as one of the leading authorities on Bible Prophecy and Apologetics, the evidence proving the truth of Christianity. He is recognized as one of the key researchers about scientific discoveries supporting the credibility of the Bible. His teaching on Prophecy and Apologetics has been presented on numerous international television and radio ministries throughout the world.

Grant R. Jeffrey currently resides in Toronto, Ontario. Grant R. Jeffrey was born in 1948.

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Why all this focus on 'the shroud'? ...  Nov 23, 2006
... The focus should be on Him and our furtherance of His name here on earth before we run out of time.

Besides, clearly in the Gospel, it says there was seen (observed) one piece neatly folded, lying in a corner, that was used to cover His head; the rest seen lying in a heap. Two pieces.

Being so vociferously opinionated one way or another, gives one the idea we are hanging our hopes on a tangible thing. This not going to win hearts for Christ.

What would fans of the shroud have done if that Italian fireman hadn't whacked into the silver and glass case, and made off with it during the fire?

The shroud should be a non-item, same with the ark, same with the ark of the covenant in Ethiopia. They tell you that themselves, when you go there to pester them into showing you.

The effect He had on first century people and events, our holy Bible and finally our faith is what matters. These three things are crucial.

Nanette Ward

I have this book "JESUS DEBATE", as well as others from Jeffrey and similar writers. This is one of two books that I introduce to people who really want to know the TRUTH about Jesus, God ... and How to get to Heaven (born-again John 3:3) But, I PREFER THE VIDEO VERSION of this book (you can ORDER THE VIDEO DIRECTLY FROM Grant Jeffrey's home page).

The undecided, atheists, and "have to be politically correct" cannot answer the MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE --- beginning of LIFE from nothing, the fulfilled BIBLE PROPHECIES written hundreds of years earlier (Jesus as Messiah, Israel reborn in 1948, etc), God's unique watermark of BIBLE CODES discovered by Jewish mathematicians (and published with a challenge to disprove it), as well as the SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE of the Resurrection "SHROUD of Turin"

Jeffrey's "SIGNATURE OF GOD" (book and video) provides an overview of most of this in a single volume - the point being that the writing of the Bible was in effect "dictated" or controlled by God to further reveal Himself and His Message to humanity, culminating in Resurrection of Jesus (as God) and the New Testament. The other resource that I loan out to people is this review "Jesus Debate" both the book and THE VIDEO (from grantjeffrey website).

The Jesus Debate VIDEO HAS GREATER IMPACT than the book as it is EASIER TO FOLLOW the logical progression from one question to the next. Both the book and video are meant to be a wide ranging overview of material (much the same as "Signature of God"). The first half of the video covers the necessary background of: integrity and historical accuracy of the Gospels, Jesus as God, Reality versus Myth (including the Resurrection), etc This series of debate interviews gives equal time on a question by question basis between the "politically-correct" liberals on one side (Jesus Seminar) and the Christians (born-again) on the other.

The SECOND HALF OF THE VIDEO details the different aspects of the "STURP" SCIENTISTS and their EVIDENCE for the authenticity of the burial cloth of Jesus at the time of His Resurrection; otherwise, known as the "The Shroud of Turin" (named for the town & church which kept it for safekeeping over the last few hundred years).

The SCIENTIFIC TESTS cover, for example, the THREE DIMENSIONAL (PHOTOGRAPHIC NEGATIVE) life-size IMAGE that was formed through space (onto a two dimensional object draped over it - the Shroud), the FOREIGN POLLEN GRAINS from Israel and Odessa (where it traveled from Israel to France/Italy), the ISRAELI FLOWERS imaged around the head (used in the burial preparation) --- later becoming the inspiration for the "halo" in paintings, the numerous DETAILS OF THE FACE (which would be accepted in a modern court of law as well as becoming another model for later paintings), the image of the dated "PONTIUS PILATE" COIN also burned into the cloth, the MEDICAL FORENSIC EVIDENCE of a crucifixion, the HUMAN BLOOD contained within the Shroud, ...

... as well as the LAB ANALYSIS of the CAUSE OF THE IMAGE which has been determined to be produced by a BURST OF RADIATION (referred to as a "neutron flux"). --- And the only argument against the Shroud is a CONSPIRACY THEORY that it's all just a "FORGERY". But, the last time I checked, the TIME FRAME for this forgery (anywhere from the 1300s to 1500s AD) there were very few radiation machines sitting around. As a matter of fact, the TECHNOLOGY needed to create this particular Shroud image STILL DOESN'T EXIST TODAY. (Maybe the conspiracy should be updated and moved into the FUTURE, using a "Time machine" ??? --- ALSO not yet invented).

Public Broadcasting PBS ALSO REACHED THE SAME CONCLUSION in their TV PROGRAM "Secrets of the Dead". This Shroud IMAGE CAN'T BE RECREATED IN THE SCIENCE LAB. The PBS video goes through several recreations (which fail), while Jeffrey's video goes into a lot of detail of all the scientific evidence for its authenticity.

Compared to the HUNDREDS OF TESTS that the Shroud DID PASS, the ONLY SINGLE TEST that it did NOT pass was the infamous CARBON 14-dating. This only "date test" (Carbon-14) would be disproven by other dating methods, the flawed selection of material, contamination of material, and the lack of integrity in its oversight.

Instead of allowing the STURP team of scientists CONTROL OVER THE CARBON-14 TEST (and its results), it was taken over by Edward Hall and Harry Gove (who managed the laboratories where the test was made). Gove also made sure that the Carbon-14 RESULT would be a failure for the Shroud supporters. This ACCUSATION is detailed by the ATTORNEY/author Mark Antonacci (in chapters eight and nine) of his book "Resurrection of the Shroud"

This DATING TEST WAS RAN ALMOST TWENTY YEARS AGO using 1988 technology and experience. Christians and many scientists (including those from the original STURP team) HAVE ASKED FOR A RE-RUN OF THIS AND OTHER DATING TESTS using TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY --- under controlled conditions, using multiple, relatively uncontaminated (location-wise) samples, with OTHER CORELLATED TESTS for various environmental contaminants.

This single mishandled Carbon-14 test, prematurely cut short all of the other tests that were planned, but years later in 2002 another examination of the Shroud, brought back it's Jesus date as "AUTHENTIC". Most of the books published on the Shroud were written in 1999 or 2000, so they have not been updated with THIS NEW EVIDENCE.

The Vatican allowed for RESTORATION WORK IN 2002 OF THE SHROUD (removing some of the patches that were accelerating the oxidation of the adjacent original) under the direct supervision of the WORLD'S LEADING TEXTILE EXPERT HISTORIAN Mechthild Flury-Lemberg. She also has extensive expertise with other ancient cloths from Israel 2000 years ago, which lead to discoveries (during this restoration) that ACTUALLY DATE THE SHROUD TO THE FIRST CENTURY TIME OF JESUS CHRIST - FULLY REFUTING THE FLAWED CARBON-14 DATE. (This is detailed in the PUBLIC PBS VIDEO)

Grant Jeffrey's DVD video version of this book can be purchased from his web site. Click on Products / Category / List All Items (for all five pages of books and videos). Jeffrey's "Signature of God" book is also available in DVD video (which I also have and highly recommend).

The PBS program for the "Shroud of Turin" may be purchased from PBS - Click on Shop PBS / (search for) SHROUD and you'll find the DVD video

*** OTHER SUPPORTING EVIDENCES may be found in this list of books and videos

Resurrection of the Shroud New Scientific Evidence ISBN# 0871319632 Mark Antonacci
Resurrected Tangible Evidence That Jesus Rose from the Dead # 0883474581 Gilbert Lavoie
Case for Christ A Journalist's Investigation # 0310209307 Lee Strobel
Signature of God (book/VIDEO) Grant Jeffrey # 0921714289 or 0921714270
Evidence that Demands a Verdict (volume 1) # 0840743785 Josh McDowell
Startling Proofs Does God Really Exist? (VIDEO-Creation/Evolution) # 8901731479 LaLonde
Genesis Question Scientific Accuracy of Genesis # 1576832309 Hugh Ross
Unlocking the Mystery of Life (VIDEO Intelligent Design of God) # 1589970926 Lad Allen
Dismantling Evolution - Intelligent Design # 0736904646 Ralph Muncaster
Science of God # 076790303X / Genesis / Big Bang Gerald Schroeder
Armageddon Earth's Last Days or Armageddon # 0921714408 Grant Jeffrey
End of History Messiah Conspiracy # 1579159931 and 0964862301 Philip Moore

Also spend some time with: reasons org, discovery org (article section), shroud com, and godandscience org

*** For members of the ATHEIST (aka the "first origin of Life from Evolution as proven scientific fact") RELIGION
(1) in your dreams ...
(2) many of whom NEVER READ any of these books and videos, but still give them one star (don't want to spend the money?)
(3) Try to think about this without a knee-jerk reaction:

According to the Shroud STURP SCIENTISTS, the Resurrection Shroud CANNOT be recreated in a science lab ... much less the fact that it's the ONLY ONE IN EXISTENCE for the LAST TWO THOUSAND YEARS. Why aren't other shrouds popping up all over the place? ... Just even one or two???

If it's not the "PROOF" OF JESUS RESURRECTION, (prophecy, archeology, history aside) then WHY aren't the thousands of atheist SCIENTISTS at LEAST coming up with a decent KNOCK-OFF REPRODUCTION in your labs??? Or are your scientists TOO BUSY trying to recreate LIFE (from inanimate, lifeless material) to PROVE GOD doesn't exist??? And unfortunately, for many of you, there will NEVER be enough evidence to convince you otherwise ... "waiting till Hell freezes over" isn't an option available for anyone.

The "GOOD NEWS" ... YOU CAN become an EX-atheist. (LIKE THE former atheist WRITERS Lee Strobel and Ralph Muncaster, above). Actually give yourself a few months to look at the other side of the issue from the Christian books, videos and sites listed above. If the Christians are wrong then you've gone the extra mile for that assurance and IF they're actually right after all (and you're still here) then YOU CAN have the True ASSURANCE at the moment of your Death that Jesus is in fact a proven, personal and the ONLY WAY to Heaven. In the meantime, think of these books and videos as a good excuse for coffee and doughnuts. What have you got to lose? --- ETERNITY?

*** FOR ANYONE really wanting to know "How can I really know if I'm going to Heaven?" -- START WITH --
Signature of God (book/VIDEO) Grant Jeffrey # 0921714289 or 0921714270
the New Testament Gospels - John, Luke, Matthew and Mark, then Romans and Acts
Jesus of Nazareth (Robert Powell - 6 hour VIDEO 1977) ISBN# 0784001154
How to Be Born Again ISBN# 0849931606 Billy Graham
Vernon McGee of "Thru the Bible" ENTIRE BIBLE STUDY AUDIO ON CD & INTERNET (English & foreign languages) and Chuck Missler's "The Bible in 24 Hours"
What about the Tombs  Sep 27, 2001
Hey all you people that say that Jesus did not claim to be God what about the tombs dated to no later than 42 A.D. One of them says Yeshua and right next to it says Yhwh which would be the name of God. Another example is the one that was translated that said (Jesus the Redeemer) sounds like a divinity claim to me. Check the site out Jerusalem Christian Review for more on these tombs.
Great Starter for Historical Jesus Research  May 9, 2001
Dr. Jeffery's book is a great beginning book for anyone who is interested in understanding the historical Jesus controversy. Unlike most authors who are trying to support the under-informed Jesus Seminar, Dr. Jeffery's writes from an evangelical perspective which is inviting and encouraging. If you are searching for a book to intrigue you while also educate you, this is the book for you. May the Holy Spirit use his book for the ultimate glory of God and the furtherance of the Kingdom.
One of the best Christian apologetics I have read!  Feb 4, 2001
First off, I have to refute an earlier review from CL8 on 11-11-2000. If I understood his review, he gave this book a poor rating because it was not consistent with the Jesus Seminar. I say, of course it isn't consistent with the Jesus Seminar. The Jesus Seminar is a huge joke! Basically, the "theologians" of the Jesus Seminar vote on whether or not Jesus actually did what the Gospels state He did. They VOTE on it! When they vote, they have 4 different selections: definitely, maybe, not likely, and not at all. And, the majority rules. So, if 5 people vote that Jesus definitely did something, and 6 other people vote that Jesus didn't do it at all, then, according to the rules of the Seminar, Jesus didn't do it at all. What a joke!

Forgive me, I digress.... Back to the book.... This book covers everything from the writing and dating of the gospels, to the Dead Sea scrolls, to the Shroud of Turin. I find the evidence given by Jeffrey to be very compelling. I have been truly rewarded by reading this book. I still find myself somewhat skeptical about the Shroud of Turin, but Jeffrey does paint a very interesting picture of the shroud. Jeffrey does remain Biblical in his reasoning, so if he doesn't agree with some other scholars, that might be why. I have loaned out my copy of this book several times, and each time my friends found it insightful and a rewarding read. I would recommend this book to anyone.


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