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Define the Great Line

By Underoath (Artist)
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Record Label   Tooth & Nail Records
Est. Packaging Dimensions:   Length: 5.42" Width: 6.54" Height: 0.39"
Weight:   0.25 lbs.
Binding  CD
Release Date   Jun 20, 2006
Publisher   CHORDANT ACNT# 3707
ISBN  5558408839  
EAN  9785558408836  
UPC  094634265829  

Availability  0 units.

Track Names
1.  In Regards To Myself
2.  A Moment Suspended in Time
3.  There Could Be Nothing After This
4.  Ever So Inviting
5.  Salmarnir
6.  Returning Empty Handed
7.  Casting Such A Thin Shadow
8.  Moving For The Sake Of Motion
9.  Writing On The Walls
10.  Everyone Looks So Good From Here
11.  To Whom It May Concern

Item Description...
Underoath has really had an amazing year! Their smash release They?re Only Chasing Safety has launch them into a mainstay in a youthful genre of rock, they have appeared this year on the cover of CCM Magazine and Alternative Press Magazine simultaneously, nominated for a Dove, headed out on some of the biggest mainstream tours this year and didn?t stop telling each of their audiences? that the reason they are where they are was because of Jesus Christ. This is a band that is making a HUGE impact on their listeners and also selling some albums along the way.

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READ MY REVIEW!! (If you haven't heard it yet)  Mar 17, 2007
OK look, you've been seeing soooo many good reviews that this album is good, heavy, and so on..... but for me, this album is just OK. I mean, they showed most of the good songs that makes this album a blast! So when you already hear dthem all and got the album, you can't find any other songs that sounded like "In Regards To Myself", "Writing On The Walls", and "You're Ever SO Invited"! (except for "Everyone Looks So Good From Here" and "Returning Empty Handed").

1."In Regards To Myself" 10/10- A great song!!! It has the hype and the screaming! A good song to begin the album.

2."A Moment Suspended In Time" 9/10- A so-so song, the beginning wasn't as good as "Writing On The Walls" or "In Regards To Myself". The ending was kinda boring.

3."There Could Be Nothing After This" 8.5/10- Another so-so song. They barely show any guitar works, you hear different instruments that are in techno.

4."You're Ever So Invited" 9/10- Te beginning are always the same, it starts out with Spencer saying some things. Sometimes I'm wondering how Spencer makes his screaming vocals (don't include his death grunt, death grunts aren't consider as screaming, you people are idiots).Again, another so-so song.

5."Salmarmir" (THIS ISN'T EVEN A SONG)- What the hell is this? JUst soft, boring instruments and you hear some guy speaking Russian or a foreign language.

6."Returning Empty Handed" 10/10- IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME THAT THERE'S A HEAVY SONG!!! The song started off as a good beginning with Spencer's death grunt and heavy guitar riffs. but I would prefer Underoath being more of post-hardcore and screamo than metal.

7."Casting Such A Thin Shadow" 9/10- The beginning and the first half of the middle were soft and just instruments. But you then hear Spencer's vocals. I love Spencer's vocals! (Thank God he did).

8."Moving For The Sake Of Motion" 10/10- Awesome drumming in the beginning and great vocals here too! One of my favorites!

9."Writing On The Walls" 10/10- A great song!!! Started with Aaron's soft singing and you then hear Spencer's screaming. Love the ending! Great song, never get tired of this song!

10."Everyone Looks So Good From Here" 10/10- A heavy song from them! Love it! JUST LOVE IT! I think "In Regards In Myself" and this song is what made people thinking that they're metal. Some people even think that they're death metal?! You people are so f**king stupid! Underoath is barely death metal, they're more of post-hardcore and screamo! Duh!

11."To Whom It May Concern" 6/10- I hated how Aaron sang here, but the best part of the song was when Spencer started screamiing (as always). Good way to end the album but kin of a useless song.

Well, that's all I gotta say about this album. Even though there are some good scores on most songs, it can get boring. Underoath isn't metal, they're christian rock, post-hardcore, and screamo. Just because a couple of their songs sound like metal, doesn't make them 100% metal! Same thing with Stone Sour!
Thankfully, these guys still know how to make a good record.  Mar 5, 2007
Here's this - I know that I shouldn't even be listening to this group, since I'm about 7 to 10 years too old and about 75 pounds over the necessary weight required to wear the appropriate uniform that most (if not all) hardcore kids have been wearing for the past couple of years. (It's been a decade since I could fit into 32-waist jeans and a size Medium t-shirt.) Coupled with that sad admission is the one that, whenever I even think about going to any kind of local rock show in my area (whether in Houston itself or in the general north of the city), I have to remind myself how old & out-of-place I'll look amongst all the kids in the crowd. Yes, I do realize that 15- to 18-year-olds really aren't kids, but when you're a decade or more older than a vast majority of the crowd going to see a hardcore show, you feel quite creepy standing next to kids who weigh half of what you do. I guess I should learn to be content with attending indie rock & folk shows - my age & my ears are getting to me.

And, on an even more level than personal style issues and the inability to earn points as a good scenester, I start listening to Underoath's new album, Define the Great Line, and began to fear that I've become "that guy." Any music aficionado of any real substance knows exactly the guy I'm talking about (Rob, Dick, & Barry make merciless fun of one of these guys in High Fidelity, both book & movie versions). He's the older and intelligent, yet subtly mocked, geezer who constantly says things like, "Oh, I used to listen to them back when they were [insert band's previous style here]," or "Oh, I like their old stuff better." This is the guy who can quote track lists, contributors, and influences for great records across many styles, but his pool of information is dated by about 5 to 10 years, at a minimum. You enjoy talking to him, since he's always enthusiastic and knowledgeable about music, but it can be almost sad to talk to him because he's stuck in the past that he's created for himself. His ears simply reached the point where they couldn't absorb anything new, whether new in style or interpretation of an old style.

Nonetheless, I say all of that to say this - I was first exposed to Underoath's music with their Cries of the Past EP that came out 6 years ago, full of many nods and bows to black/European metal. However, I cringed a bit when The Changing of Times was released in 2002, revealing that the band had left the gates of metal and entered the quickly-expanding subdivision that was becoming "screamo/hardcore." However, after growing to like the new direction the band undertook with TCoT, I was definitely not a fan of the clean & slickly-produced "pop-core" of 2004's They're Only Chasing Safety. I stood adamantly upon this opinion, even though it began to appear that legions of fans everywhere were collecting themselves around the house that is Underoath. And the band itself didn't make my distaste with their current work any easier, for after two years of constant touring and three straight appearances as a main-stage act on the Vans Warped Tour, the guys of Underoath have certainly secured themselves a spot in the mainstream rock pantheon.

Case in point - with the release of their newest album, Define the Great Line, on June 20th, this Florida-based band sold 98,000 records in the first week, earning them a #2 ranking on the Billboard charts, behind only Nelly Furtado's latest, and pushing the Dixie Chicks down a spot. That, my dear readers, is notoriety and market value of the highest level ("Under Who?" asks the average pop/R&B radio listener). It's one thing to mock the buying habits of the average teen and 18-25 demographic, but it's quite another thing to realize that those buying habits are the ones that have catapulted an overtly Christian rock band into the ears and eyes of hard music listeners around the nation.

Because, you see, this is a screamo/hardcore album that many people should be listening to, and for good reason, as the band seems to have eschewed all of the poppy & melodic tendencies that plagued They're Only Chasing Safety. Suffice to say folks, the talent level present on Define the Great Line is hard to ignore, whether or not you enjoy or even appreciate this subgenre of metal. The passion, intensity, and sense of purpose that literally explodes from this album are to be applauded, examined, and reflected upon by both those people who listen to music and those who actively are making music. I will even go as far as to step up to the plate, superlatives in hand, and declare that this is a career-defining album, in the best way possible - Underoath has happened upon a medium through which they can effectively sing/scream about their struggles, questions, trials, and tribulations without sounding like they're sorry for themselves, whining about their status in life, or pissed off at the world (as twice-baked and over-cooked as that approach is). The lyrics of Spencer Chamberlain & Aaron Gillespie read like the anguished pleadings and prayers of the Major & Minor Prophets of the Old Testament - and I mean that as an extreme compliment.

However, as I sit perusing the phenomenal photography contained within the special edition CD+DVD and examine the subject of the collection in his various stages of devolution and (almost) decomposition, I find myself hoping against hope for a decent lead guitar solo of some sort on more than a few songs. I fully realize that this is a concept album of high distinction and that screamo/hardcore albums often intentionally shun the concept of soloing, but there are times when the dark, brooding chugging could be complemented by a sonorous piece of fretwork (read: NOT a high, soaring 80's solo) connecting the movements in at least the two songs on the album that clock in at over 6 minutes. Do not read too much into my complaint (many metal-heads disdain hardcore as being replete with undisciplined and unstructured guitar players) - I just wish that more technical guitar playing had made its way onto this album.

Ultimately, Define the Great Line is one of the best rock albums of 2006, though the style of rock isn't always agreeable to many people in the demographic to which I belong, much less amongst the people who comprise my regular coterie of readers. Thus, I offer the same suggestion I've offered to the parents of the kids I sold hard music to for 6 years - while listening to the music (at a volume your old ears can tolerate), take out the lyrics, and read along with the men of Underoath. The crushing waves of instrumental fervor notwithstanding, it is the lyrical content lying within these songs ("You're Ever So Inviting" & "Moving For the Sake of Motion" are the album's standout tracks) that makes this album worth several listen-throughs and maybe even a purchase, but only if your old ears are up to the challenge. I'll even let you borrow my copy.
(3.7 stars) WAKE UP! WAKE UP! WAKE UP!   Dec 1, 2006
This album was OK, sometimes it could get a little boring, like at first there were a lot of screaming, then singing, after that it gets softer and more silent. "In Regards To Myself" and "Everyone Looks So Good From Here" are the best songs in this CD, they both are heavy and fast!

1."In Regards To Myself" 11/10- A lot of screaming, and wonderful singing, one of my favorite.

2."A Moment Suspended in Time" 10/10- Catchy singing, and love how this sounded.

3."There Could Be Nothing After This" 9/10- This was okay, it will get a little boring in some parts.

4."You're Ever So Inviting" 10/10- Love how it began, I really like this song! But it starts to sound like Hawthorne Heights around the middle.

5."Salmarnir" 1/10- No singing, no guitars, no screaming, nothing, just soft, around the middle you will hear some guy speaking Russian or a foreign language.

6."Returning Empty Handed" 10/10- This is one of my favorite, this sounded sorta brutal and catchy guitars around the middle. Love the part when Spencer screams out PARANOIA!!

7."Casting Such A Thin Shadow" 8/10- This started soft for a long time, if you wait until 3:50, it stars getting heavy.

8."Moving For The Sake Of Motion" 10/10- This song had great drumming, this had many screaming, and usually I hate Aaron's singing, but in this song, it sounded great!

9."Writing On The Walls" 9/10- This song started out soft with Aaron singing, I love how Spencer screamed in this song, mostly at the end. But I don't get why this song is so famous and so amny people love this song?! Nothoing's really special about this song! But this song had nice drumming.

10."Everone Looks So Good From Here" 11/10- I LOVE THIS SONG! It had no Aaron's singing, just Spencer's screaming. This was the heaviest song in this album!

11."To Whom May It Concern" 6.9/10- I didn't like how Aaron sang in this song, this wasn't actually good, the only part that interested me was the screaming parts from Spencer.

They should get rid of Aaron! Without him, this band would be a lot heavier, with only Spencer. Good job, Spencer!
these guys should make an appearance on WWE  Nov 8, 2006
Underoath did their homework on this album and it shows. there's more metal, some slower parts on it, and there is nothing about boyfriend/girlfriend couples splitting, as metalcore bands have been accused of singing about. I hope to hear more from these guys in the distant future. one suggestion I have for these guys: you're on a Christian label, so start singing about Jesus. also, Underoath should make an appearance on WWE.
Underoath Meets Blindside's "Silence"  Sep 5, 2006
The first thing I noticed with this album, (other than this being a new album with songs that I'd never heard before) was that it was mixed by Chris Lord-Alge. This means it's going to have amazingly full, booming bass and the effects on instruments and vocals are going to be proper and fit beautifully. What it also means is that it's going to sound like everything else that he's mixed. Note the title of this review. Right at the first song, I thought it sounded precicely like Silence. The general sound of the guitars and drums sounded exactly like Christian and them had never gone out of the studio. This isn't to say that the songs' keys/riffs sound similar, as Underoath still has it when it comes to playing notes. If this is your first Underoath CD and you're expecting more of the same sound on their older albums, you're going to be disappointed. Their other albums don't sound as 'deep' as this does, what with the bass sounding like it's coming from a monster 12' underground.

This is a decent album if this is your first ride with Underoath. Just don't expect their older stuff to be the same. (Should you decide to pick them up. Highly suggested, personally.)

Support great music. Buy this.
- Henry (Will probably end up rewriting this in a week or two)

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